My responses to your email are in white

Ara Pehlivanian

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Ara Pehlivanian replied on 2008-09-02 19:53:13

<div typeof='oa:TextualBody' resource='#note-20080902195313' property='rdf:value' datatype='rdf:HTML'> As funny and clever as that is, I can't say that I'm 100% against HTML email. Mainly because of the formatting that it allows me to do. Let the flames begin. Oh, BTW, I used text-only email for a good few months to come to the conclusion that it wasn't all that it was cracked up to be.</div>

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AnnotatedAt: 2 September 2008 21:53
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Content: <div typeof='oa:TextualBody' resource='#note-20080902195313' property='rdf:value' datatype='rdf:HTML'> As funny and clever as that is, I can't say that I'm 100% against HTML email. Mainly because of the formatting that it allows me to do. Let the flames begin. Oh, BTW, I used text-only email for a good few months to come to the conclusion that it wasn't all that it was cracked up to be.</div>
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DatePublished: 2 September 2008 21:53
Description: <div typeof='oa:TextualBody' resource='#note-20080902195313' property='rdf:value' datatype='rdf:HTML'> As funny and clever as that is, I can't say that I'm 100% against HTML email. Mainly because of the formatting that it allows me to do. Let the flames begin. Oh, BTW, I used text-only email for a good few months to come to the conclusion that it wasn't all that it was cracked up to be.</div>
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Has reply: Sarven Capadisli replied on 2008-09-02 21:37:43
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Name: enAra Pehlivanian replied on 2008-09-02 19:53:13
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Published: 2 September 2008 21:53

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Katy D replied on 2011-04-26 21:55:34

<div typeof='oa:TextualBody' resource='#note-20110426215534' property='rdf:value' datatype='rdf:HTML'> I've run across this problem more than once, and it can be super annoying! What I normally do is add my initials to my responses (and theirs) so if we do lose the colours, it still makes sense. [EX] Like this? [KD] Exactly! [EX] :)</div>

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AnnotatedAt: 26 April 2011 23:55
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Content: <div typeof='oa:TextualBody' resource='#note-20110426215534' property='rdf:value' datatype='rdf:HTML'> I've run across this problem more than once, and it can be super annoying! What I normally do is add my initials to my responses (and theirs) so if we do lose the colours, it still makes sense. [EX] Like this? [KD] Exactly! [EX] :)</div>
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DatePublished: 26 April 2011 23:55
Description: <div typeof='oa:TextualBody' resource='#note-20110426215534' property='rdf:value' datatype='rdf:HTML'> I've run across this problem more than once, and it can be super annoying! What I normally do is add my initials to my responses (and theirs) so if we do lose the colours, it still makes sense. [EX] Like this? [KD] Exactly! [EX] :)</div>
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Name: enKaty D replied on 2011-04-26 21:55:34
Published: 26 April 2011 23:55

My responses to your email are in white

Oh the inevitable headaches with email and how people use email to communicate. Every once in a while, we get one of those emails where the reply starts off with something like My responses are below in red. Now that is just super-fantastic, if: the receiver is not colour blind the receiver's email client supports text/html the receiver's device supports colours Thinking about replying back with a clever response to this absurdity? Hi Jane, My responses are in white: Please avoid using HTML in your emails! Okay, so, you can highlight the text area and manage to figure out the text, but, you get the idea and hopefully the point is made :) Happy un-emailing.

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Creator: Sarven Capadisli
DatePublished: 3 September 2008 00:10
Description: en Oh the inevitable headaches with email and how people use email to communicate. Every once in a while, we get one of those emails where the reply starts off with something like My responses are below in red. Now that is just super-fantastic, if: the receiver is not colour blind the receiver's email client supports text/html the receiver's device supports colours Thinking about replying back with a clever response to this absurdity? Hi Jane, My responses are in white: Please avoid using HTML in your emails! Okay, so, you can highlight the text area and manage to figure out the text, but, you get the idea and hopefully the point is made :) Happy un-emailing.
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Has reply: Ara Pehlivanian replied on 2008-09-02 19:53:13; Katy D replied on 2011-04-26 21:55:34; problemSolved3DecadesAgo replied on 2010-01-20 19:47:23; Rhonnie replied on 2009-12-08 03:38:10; Robin Millette replied on 2008-09-02 19:47:45
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Value: Good one, I'll probably steal that idea if I can get myself to ever ever use HTML in an email...

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Value: As funny and clever as that is, I can't say that I'm 100% against HTML email. Mainly because of the formatting that it allows me to do. Let the flames begin. Oh, BTW, I used text-only email for a good few months to come to the conclusion that it wasn't all that it was cracked up to be.

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Value: @Ara Pehlivanian: I understand what you mean and agree with in cases where the user doesn't have the know-how to resort to alternatives to email. Any remaining information (where another tool is less appropriate) can be sufficiently written in text/plain.

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Value: Instead of changing color, I usually make my response in bold, or the other way around, so that the original text is bold, and my response is normal. But that white response example cracks me up.. LOL

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Value: > How should we handle replying to email? Like this. see how the "> " sequence on the first line shows that its coming from a previous author? This convention was established in the 1970's when Internet email first got started. People started having troubleseeing what part of an email was reply and what was the original. Back in those early days the only people on the Internet were primarily researchers and scientists. They determined that this was the best way to format email because it saved everyone the most time. > but what about colors in emails? A totally stupid idea as the article showed. Email has to be readable on any device. Many devices have no color at all. So color in email? Just ignore it. That "> " is so easy we started doing it 3 decades and it just works in all email mediums. Virtually every email program in the world supports it. In fact its so useful its even described in Internet RFC's Engineering documents on how to use email! (Wow!) For its entire effective existence, the Internet and that part of the Internet people call "the Web" has been defined and engineered by the "The Internet Engineering Task Force" (IETF). As a group the IETF has defined the standards and conventions that allow programs (and people) to use the WEB so easily. Pretty much everything you ever wanted to know about what goes on under the covers of the Web is defined in the engineering documents found here: http://www.ietf.org/rfc.html and here; (mirror) http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/ These documents include this one written in 1994 to summarize and document the existing email standards: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html Happy Reading!

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Value: I've run across this problem more than once, and it can be super annoying! What I normally do is add my initials to my responses (and theirs) so if we do lose the colours, it still makes sense. [EX] Like this? [KD] Exactly! [EX] :)

problemSolved3DecadesAgo

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problemSolved3DecadesAgo replied on 2010-01-20 19:47:23

<div typeof='oa:TextualBody' resource='#note-20100120194723' property='rdf:value' datatype='rdf:HTML'> > How should we handle replying to email? Like this. see how the "> " sequence on the first line shows that its coming from a previous author? This convention was established in the 1970's when Internet email first got started. People started having troubleseeing what part of an email was reply and what was the original. Back in those early days the only people on the Internet were primarily researchers and scientists. They determined that this was the best way to format email because it saved everyone the most time. > but what about colors in emails? A totally stupid idea as the article showed. Email has to be readable on any device. Many devices have no color at all. So color in email? Just ignore it. That "> " is so easy we started doing it 3 decades and it just works in all email mediums. Virtually every email program in the world supports it. In fact its so useful its even described in Internet RFC's Engineering documents on how to use email! (Wow!) For its entire effective existence, the Internet and that part of the Internet people call "the Web" has been defined and engineered by the "The Internet Engineering Task Force" (IETF). As a group the IETF has defined the standards and conventions that allow programs (and people) to use the WEB so easily. Pretty much everything you ever wanted to know about what goes on under the covers of the Web is defined in the engineering documents found here: http://www.ietf.org/rfc.html and here; (mirror) http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/ These documents include this one written in 1994 to summarize and document the existing email standards: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html Happy Reading!</div>

AnnotatedAt: 20 January 2010 21:47
Content: <div typeof='oa:TextualBody' resource='#note-20100120194723' property='rdf:value' datatype='rdf:HTML'> > How should we handle replying to email? Like this. see how the "> " sequence on the first line shows that its coming from a previous author? This convention was established in the 1970's when Internet email first got started. People started having troubleseeing what part of an email was reply and what was the original. Back in those early days the only people on the Internet were primarily researchers and scientists. They determined that this was the best way to format email because it saved everyone the most time. > but what about colors in emails? A totally stupid idea as the article showed. Email has to be readable on any device. Many devices have no color at all. So color in email? Just ignore it. That "> " is so easy we started doing it 3 decades and it just works in all email mediums. Virtually every email program in the world supports it. In fact its so useful its even described in Internet RFC's Engineering documents on how to use email! (Wow!) For its entire effective existence, the Internet and that part of the Internet people call "the Web" has been defined and engineered by the "The Internet Engineering Task Force" (IETF). As a group the IETF has defined the standards and conventions that allow programs (and people) to use the WEB so easily. Pretty much everything you ever wanted to know about what goes on under the covers of the Web is defined in the engineering documents found here: http://www.ietf.org/rfc.html and here; (mirror) http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/ These documents include this one written in 1994 to summarize and document the existing email standards: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html Happy Reading!</div>
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DatePublished: 20 January 2010 21:47
Description: <div typeof='oa:TextualBody' resource='#note-20100120194723' property='rdf:value' datatype='rdf:HTML'> > How should we handle replying to email? Like this. see how the "> " sequence on the first line shows that its coming from a previous author? This convention was established in the 1970's when Internet email first got started. People started having troubleseeing what part of an email was reply and what was the original. Back in those early days the only people on the Internet were primarily researchers and scientists. They determined that this was the best way to format email because it saved everyone the most time. > but what about colors in emails? A totally stupid idea as the article showed. Email has to be readable on any device. Many devices have no color at all. So color in email? Just ignore it. That "> " is so easy we started doing it 3 decades and it just works in all email mediums. Virtually every email program in the world supports it. In fact its so useful its even described in Internet RFC's Engineering documents on how to use email! (Wow!) For its entire effective existence, the Internet and that part of the Internet people call "the Web" has been defined and engineered by the "The Internet Engineering Task Force" (IETF). As a group the IETF has defined the standards and conventions that allow programs (and people) to use the WEB so easily. Pretty much everything you ever wanted to know about what goes on under the covers of the Web is defined in the engineering documents found here: http://www.ietf.org/rfc.html and here; (mirror) http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/ These documents include this one written in 1994 to summarize and document the existing email standards: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html Happy Reading!</div>
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Name: enproblemSolved3DecadesAgo replied on 2010-01-20 19:47:23
Published: 20 January 2010 21:47

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Rhonnie replied on 2009-12-08 03:38:10

<div typeof='oa:TextualBody' resource='#note-20091208033810' property='rdf:value' datatype='rdf:HTML'> Instead of changing color, I usually make my response in bold, or the other way around, so that the original text is bold, and my response is normal. But that white response example cracks me up.. LOL</div>

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AnnotatedAt: 8 December 2009 05:38
AnnotatedBy: Rhonnie
Content: <div typeof='oa:TextualBody' resource='#note-20091208033810' property='rdf:value' datatype='rdf:HTML'> Instead of changing color, I usually make my response in bold, or the other way around, so that the original text is bold, and my response is normal. But that white response example cracks me up.. LOL</div>
Creator: Rhonnie
DatePublished: 8 December 2009 05:38
Description: <div typeof='oa:TextualBody' resource='#note-20091208033810' property='rdf:value' datatype='rdf:HTML'> Instead of changing color, I usually make my response in bold, or the other way around, so that the original text is bold, and my response is normal. But that white response example cracks me up.. LOL</div>
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Name: enRhonnie replied on 2009-12-08 03:38:10
Published: 8 December 2009 05:38

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Robin Millette replied on 2008-09-02 19:47:45

<div typeof='oa:TextualBody' resource='#note-20080902194745' property='rdf:value' datatype='rdf:HTML'> Good one, I'll probably steal that idea if I can get myself to ever ever use HTML in an email...</div>

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AnnotatedAt: 2 September 2008 21:47
AnnotatedBy: Robin Millette
Content: <div typeof='oa:TextualBody' resource='#note-20080902194745' property='rdf:value' datatype='rdf:HTML'> Good one, I'll probably steal that idea if I can get myself to ever ever use HTML in an email...</div>
Creator: Robin Millette
DatePublished: 2 September 2008 21:47
Description: <div typeof='oa:TextualBody' resource='#note-20080902194745' property='rdf:value' datatype='rdf:HTML'> Good one, I'll probably steal that idea if I can get myself to ever ever use HTML in an email...</div>
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Name: enRobin Millette replied on 2008-09-02 19:47:45
Published: 2 September 2008 21:47

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Sarven Capadisli replied on 2008-09-02 21:37:43

<div typeof='oa:TextualBody' resource='#note-20080902213743' property='rdf:value' datatype='rdf:HTML'> @Ara Pehlivanian: I understand what you mean and agree with in cases where the user doesn't have the know-how to resort to alternatives to email. Any remaining information (where another tool is less appropriate) can be sufficiently written in text/plain.</div>

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AnnotatedAt: 2 September 2008 23:37
AnnotatedBy: Sarven Capadisli
Content: <div typeof='oa:TextualBody' resource='#note-20080902213743' property='rdf:value' datatype='rdf:HTML'> @Ara Pehlivanian: I understand what you mean and agree with in cases where the user doesn't have the know-how to resort to alternatives to email. Any remaining information (where another tool is less appropriate) can be sufficiently written in text/plain.</div>
Creator: Sarven Capadisli
DatePublished: 2 September 2008 23:37
Description: <div typeof='oa:TextualBody' resource='#note-20080902213743' property='rdf:value' datatype='rdf:HTML'> @Ara Pehlivanian: I understand what you mean and agree with in cases where the user doesn't have the know-how to resort to alternatives to email. Any remaining information (where another tool is less appropriate) can be sufficiently written in text/plain.</div>
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HasTarget: Ara Pehlivanian replied on 2008-09-02 19:53:13
InReplyTo: Ara Pehlivanian replied on 2008-09-02 19:53:13
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Name: enSarven Capadisli replied on 2008-09-02 21:37:43
Published: 2 September 2008 23:37

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